Habits Podcast

#434 - Habits of High Performers, with James Laughlin

I'm so excited to share today’s episode with you, because this conversation really stayed with me long after we stopped recording.

Today, I'm joined by James Laughlin, author of Habits of High Performers, and we dive deep into something that quietly shapes every part of our lives: our habits.

Not the big dramatic ones, but the small daily choices that, over time, determine how we live, work and feel.

What I love about James’ approach is that high performance is not about doing more. It is about doing what truly matters, consistently and with intention, while still protecting your wellbeing, relationships and sense of purpose. T

his conversation felt so aligned with everything I believe in and teach, especially inside our GROW Personal Growth Book Club and DL Coaching programs.

In this episode, we explore:

  • Why getting radically clear on what you want is the foundation for everything else

  • How your belief systems quietly shape your decisions, confidence and results

  • The role of purpose in creating sustainable motivation and fulfilment

We also talk about journaling, priorities, boundaries, and how to stay focused in a world full of distractions. It's a grounded, honest and inspiring conversation that gently invites you to reflect on your own habits and ask whether they are truly supporting the life you want to create.

Listen with an open heart, a notebook nearby if you can, and a willingness to reflect. Sometimes the smallest shifts create the biggest change.

As always, I’d LOVE to hear what resonated most with you - so please share and let’s keep the conversation going in the Dream Life Podcast Facebook Group here.    

…and remember, it all starts with a dream 💛

Kristina

Dream Life & kikki.K Founder

P.S. If you’re ready for guided support to make 2026 brilliant for you - starting in February with an overhaul of your Habits, explore Dream Life Coaching here: https://www.yourdreamlifestartshere.com/course 💛

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[00:01:22] Kristina: Hi there, and welcome back to another episode.

[00:01:26] I'm Kristina Karlsson and the host of the Dream Life podcast. I am so excited because today's conversation is about something that quietly shapes our entire lives, our habits, not the big dramatic ones.

[00:01:42] But the small daily choices that over time decide how we live, work, and feel.

[00:01:50] I have a super inspiring guest today, and his name is James Locklin.

[00:01:58] And he has just [00:02:00] written a book called Habits of High Performers.

[00:02:03] Essential principles

[00:02:05] to thrive in Life and work. And it's a book that we are reading right now inside Grow My Personal Growth book club.

[00:02:14] And as you will hear today, high performance isn't about doing more. It's about doing what matters consistently with intention. So as you listen, I invite you to notice the habits that you are already living by and then gently ask yourself.

[00:02:31] Are they moving you closer

[00:02:33] to the life

[00:02:34] you really want?

[00:02:36] I highly recommend reading James book, and if you wanna do it with us, just head over to Dream Bluff starts here.com and join, grow, and you will be part of

[00:02:48] reading it,

[00:02:49] discussing it, and implementing what matters to you.

[00:02:53] Today's conversation is just so inspiring. I could honestly have spoken to James for hours. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Hello James, and a very warm welcome to my podcast. I am so excited to have you here.

[00:03:13] James: Kristina. It's an absolute pleasure. Thanks for having me.

[00:03:15] Kristina: Oh, it's such a, it's such an honor to have you on because we are currently reading your incredible book, habits of High Performance, and um, uh, everyone is framing about it. I'm gonna talk more about that, but before we get started to talk about your book, I would love to ask you a question. Did you have a dream as a kid, something you wanna do, have or become?

[00:03:39] James: Kristina, such a beautiful question. So when I was nine years of age, I lived in Northern Ireland, and it's a beautiful country. However, when I grew up, it was strongly divided. There was a lot of, uh, unrest there, and I wanted to kind of get out and travel the world and see what it was really like. So my dream was to become a world [00:04:00] champion drummer.

[00:04:01] And in the end the, I got to, I got a set of drumsticks, started learning how to drum, and fast forward to 13, uh, I then became a world solo drumming champion and that really changed the trajectory of my life.

[00:04:14] Kristina: Wow, that's so inspiring because that was a dream you had as a really young kid and then made it happen. And I can only imagine what that does to your kind of confidence and, you know, actions, uh, going forward. So, um, maybe tell us a little bit more about your journey. We have a global audience on this podcast, so maybe not everyone I've heard about you and your book yet, but love to just have a quick intro and then we'll get into your book.

[00:04:40] James: Yeah. Thank you. So yeah, I work with all sorts of people, from entrepreneurs to political leaders, to professional athletes. Uh, in terms of team settings, I'm working with some of the, the top teams in the planet, uh, working with armies and military units heading to Antarctica next week to do some leadership training down there.

[00:04:58] So everything I do revolves around high performance, and that's different for everyone. Uh, sometimes that word high performance is very off-putting, but for me it's about helping people consistently exceed the norms. Whilst maintaining really healthy relationships and wellbeing.

[00:05:13] Kristina: Yeah, absolutely. Love it. So when, um, we are reading your book currently in Grow, my Personal Growth book club, and, uh, I always, like at the beginning of the year, I have a schedule for the whole year of the books that we are gonna read, but I, I never tell everyone except for a month ahead because I always change because there's so many incredible books out there.

[00:05:35] And in February, I. Uh, choose a book around habits because you know, I'm all about helping people. Making the most of their life and creating their dream life. And, uh, I think habits are just such a fundamental part of, uh, of that. And so I had another book, uh, on the list, but then when I heard about you and your book, I read it.

[00:05:56] I was like, no, we're gonna read that.

[00:05:58] James: Oh, I feel So

[00:05:59] Kristina: yeah.

[00:05:59] James: Thank you.[00:06:00]

[00:06:00] Kristina: Now I just, it's really, really good. So I would love to just go through the book 'cause there are seven principles, or seven key areas of high performance in your book. I'd love for you to talk through them all, maybe just on high levels, so from one to seven, and then, uh, we might go a little bit deeper on each of them.

[00:06:19] It's for our listeners.

[00:06:21] James: the first things first, uh, number one, get radically clear. So most people when they come to me, they'll say, James, could you work with me? Could you be my coach? I'll, the first thing I'll ask 'em is, what do you want? And often, and the listener might relate with this, they'll go, um, if they start with, um, I'll say, look, I can't help you at all.

[00:06:39] I can give you all the tools, the resources, the ideas, but if you don't know what you want, there's no point in looking for help or tools or hacks.

[00:06:48] So that's the very first thing I've noticed with high performers is they are radically clear on what it is they want in life, in work. Relationships and they set really strong boundaries around that.

[00:06:59] And in the book we talk about a few examples. One being, uh, former client, Samuel Whitelock, who's the most capped all black of all time. Uh, for those that are not from this part of the world, that's rugby. Uh, he's a bit of a superstar. He knew from a very young age he wanted to be one of the greatest all blacks of all time and became the most capped.

[00:07:17] Another one is John Key, who decided at. Seven years of age, he wanted to be a multimillionaire and the prime minister and in the end he, both things, uh, ended up coming to fruition. So that's probably the first thing. Why don't we stop there and just pause and go. How does that land for you in terms of getting radically clear on what you want in life?

[00:07:36] Kristina: Yeah, I mean, I am so clear. I kinda read my vision every single morning and every single night I'm super clear what I want and, um, I always talk about that as well in my coaching program and everything that I do because I, as you know, as you said, if you don't know what you want and the way that I do that as well is about asking people.

[00:07:58] What would you do if you [00:08:00] knew you couldn't fail? Because I, I find that so many people are scared of failing and I'm not scared of that anymore. I failed so much and, uh, I, you know, when we fail, that's where as you know, the growth is. Uh, so I always ask, what would you do if you knew you couldn't fail?

[00:08:15] What would you do if you had all the money and resources and the skills? Because often money and skills and resources. And confidence stop us and self-belief we're, can talk about that, um, as part of your book. And then the last question that I ask in terms of getting to understand what people want is, um, what would you do if you woke up with perfect health and perfect energy?

[00:08:35] Because if we don't have that does, you know, it doesn't matter how successful we are, if we fundamental part of our life should be health and wellbeing and, you know, that's all part of your book as well. So that's kind of, uh, very much aligned with what, what you were talking about.

[00:08:50] James: That's really special and that you mentioned the word belief. So that's the second habit of high performers. So we are all full of bs, right? Belief systems, and they are at the subconscious level, and they dictate our decisions. They dictate what we think about ourselves, what action we do or don't take.

[00:09:09] So I'm gonna ask you a question and I want the listener or the viewer to also answer this in their own head. I don't want you to think about my feelings. I don't want you to think what James might think. I want you to be honest. So what's the first things that come to mind when you think of an Irishman? First things.

[00:09:29] Kristina: Uh, I'll think about potatoes.

[00:09:30] James: There we go. Yeah. Fiddly day potatoes.

[00:09:34] Kristina: I'll think about the four clo, you know,

[00:09:36] the

[00:09:37] whatever that's called. Yeah. Yeah. And I think about. Drunk people.

[00:09:41] James: Yeah. Guinness drinking. Yeah. St. Patrick's Day, right? Leprechauns maybe.

[00:09:47] Kristina: I also love the accent, of course. And then I also think really about hard work.

[00:09:54] James: Yeah. Yeah. They're grafters. They've got hard work ethic. Be beautiful. That's what we'll call your bs, [00:10:00] your belief systems. And so you didn't need to go into your mind to go, what should I say that James might like? You just went, this is the first thing that came to mind. So high performers are really aware that there's some global beliefs, money, success.

[00:10:13] Failure and happiness. Those are the four real dominant beliefs that can really dictate where we go in life. So that first one, let's say money, we need it. Uh, we, we thrive on it. If we don't have enough of it, life can be difficult. So I grew up in a working class time and the saying was, money doesn't grow on trees.

[00:10:32] That's what I believed. And my little boy now, he just turned nine, we were back home and he said to a family member who told him, look, son, money doesn't grow on trees. He says, well, actually. It does. And they said, what do you mean? Well, dad told me the tree is your mind, and if you water your mind by reading and listening and asking questions, you'll learn more, you'll be more valuable, and the money will show up. And so at high level, obviously it's his idea, but it works because when you think money doesn't grow on trees, you're in a life of scarcity failure. You mentioned earlier when you think failure is a bad thing, you're never gonna progress. You're never gonna take a risk. You're never gonna leave that awful toxic relationship.

[00:11:10] You're never gonna leave that awful toxic job. If you're in a situation that you don't like, 'cause you play it safe. If you think failure. Is the journey to success, then you're gonna have so many more options in life, and I think high performers are really conscious in terms of your beliefs. What do you believe about failure?

[00:11:28] Kristina: I believe that's a stepping stone to success because with that failure, there is no growth. And you know, I had plenty of both of success and failure and Where my growth came from was definitely not success. Success is fantastic and it's, you know, it's vital, part of a growth, but it's not, it's the stepping stone.

[00:11:48] The stepping stone is failure. And, um, I remember, Interviewing Arianna Huffington. And, uh, she has that, uh, as part of her, her kind of success [00:12:00] formula. It's not the opposite of success. It's, um, the stepping stone. And that's what I, I truly believe. And not only do I believe it, I live it. And, uh, I, I, that's why I think dreaming should be so big that even if you have no idea how to make it happen, because when you do that, you stretch yourself versus just kind of, you know, staying where you are.

[00:12:19] Push yourself a little bit with goal setting, but I like to just think, you know, what would you do if you couldn't fail? And if you, if you could do anything in, in your one precious life you've been given,

[00:12:29] James: I love that. That's a beautiful perspective. I really love it, and I think dreaming big also, Kristina, it makes us think about. Is it bigger than us? Is the dream bigger than me as an individual or my business? And that's where it gets exciting. You know, I've been thinking over the last few years, what is that?

[00:12:45] And my bigger than me dream is to see a world of possibilitarian. So a world where there's problems and challenges, but people resort to what's possible. Think like a possibilitarian as opposed to bickering and gossiping and complaining. We need more entrepreneurs in the world that look for problems and solve them.

[00:13:06] To me, that's the greatest thing we can be doing.

[00:13:09] Kristina: Yeah, absolutely. So do you wanna then move on to the third? But actually another thing that I, I just wanna say on belief system is that the biggest challenge that I see people have in my, in the Dream life community is that people don't believe in themselves. And that's why I think it's so important to be part of a community, have a coach, or a mentor, or a support network, because often it's, as you can see with your son.

[00:13:36] sharing with your family is that our family's not always the most supportive and it's not because they don't want to be supportive, it's because of their belief system. And I, I think it's so important to be around like my people. That's why I run my coaching program because it's, um, I just wanna support people.

[00:13:52] 'cause I, I feel, I have not heard one dream that I don't think it's possible. They might not think it's possible because I haven't started it and I haven't done it. And of [00:14:00] course you'll have a bit of a self doubt, but it shouldn't stop you.

[00:14:03] James: I'm with you and it's interesting. I've not really, I've learned to not share my dreams and my big goals with, uh, my family.

[00:14:12] My immediate family, like my partner, yes, she loves it and she's right behind it. But my family back in Ireland, they don't know half of the things I dream about. Because often when I brought them up as a kid, they were like, come on, settle down, like

[00:14:21] relax. Whereas I'm in a group where I can, like, you're a group where I can share it, and people are like, yes, what can we do to help? You can do this. And that's so empowering. So for the listener, I want to suggest they get a PVJ. So a personal. Victory Journal, and it could be a physical journal or it could just be an album on their photos, on their phone, and anything they've ever done that they're proud of.

[00:14:47] And it could be write an article, it could be graduate school, could be Move Outta Home, could be buy a home, could be make your first million, whatever it might be. I want you to capture as many of those moments, write them down or have photos of them because we all have moments of self-doubt. Then we don't take action from that place.

[00:15:04] We need to be self builders, not self beaters. And so having a PVJ, I've got my little album on my phone where I'm having a moment where I go, God, I can't believe I'm stepping on the stage. Like there's 20,000 people out there, they're gonna like this. I'll go through it and be like, I've done this before.

[00:15:17] I can do this. I think that's a really simple tool that might help a listener.

[00:15:21] Kristina: Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree more.

[00:15:24] James: Now, number three, on habits of high performers Lead Your Life on purpose. Super important when we lack purpose and meaning in our world, we're doing everything for extrinsic reasons. So what's extrinsic? Money, status, power, fame. We need money. And having some power over our lives is very important, but when it becomes the be all, end all, it can be toxic.

[00:15:47] So having a sense of purpose is important. And in the book I share some incredible research around what it does for our longevity when we've got purpose. What it does for our happiness, what it does for our stress levels. So [00:16:00] finding purpose in the work that you do is so important. And if you're a janitor, ask yourself, what am I helping in terms of the bigger mission?

[00:16:08] Who am I helping? What's going on? If you are a, a coach and all the players are getting all the kudos and they're in the world stage, think to yourself, what's the meaning of what I'm doing? It's really important what I'm doing. If you're a stay at home mom. You don't work in the workforce, go, I've got so much meaning in bringing up these incredible kids and keeping an amazing home.

[00:16:29] I mean, that's the most important role, whether it's a dad or a mom doing that, that's incredible. So I think finding purpose and honoring that are what high performers do very well.

[00:16:39] Kristina: Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, I think it's so, I mean, it's so fulfilling. I, I was, uh, in Melbourne speaking yesterday and I was, uh, speaking for the Entrepreneur Summit and it's kind of my perfect audience because I am an entrepreneur and, uh, as I was flying down to do that, I was thinking. That was me sitting in that, it was like 700 ent, you know, entrepreneurs or people who wanted to start their own business.

[00:17:02] And as I, it was a q and a on stage with the founder and I was thinking, I'm actually gonna just jot down 10 things that I would love To hear, I would have loved to hear when I was, you know, 30 years ago when I was sitting in the audience and uh, and then I was thinking, this is such a privilege.

[00:17:20] Like, I'm so, like I, I get to call this work and, you know, coaching on, and then straight back to the hotel coaching I always coach on Monday nights. And then I had my book club where we were discussing your book and I was like, I cannot believe that I call this work. Because for me, when you have a purpose, it's like.

[00:17:36] It kind of flows up much more versus this kind of work life balance where we often think, well, you know, work should be separate. I think as entrepreneurs and when you do something that we're around purpose, then it just becomes the life that you live. And I, I just love that. I'm just so grateful that I've found that, and that's what I want for the listeners and everyone that I meet.

[00:17:56] James: Kristina, that's so beautifully put. And I do that [00:18:00] dance as well. It's like I don't work nine to five, I don't even call it work. People are like, you know, what's your job? I was like, I don't really have one. I do what I love and I speak to humans and like yourself. Like I just love it. And if everyone in the world could find whatever it is that they love.

[00:18:15] Get after it. I promise they will have a happier life, a longer life, a healthier life, better relationships, more money, and we don't have to settle. We never do. I mean, that's probably the thing I fight, is mediocrity. I think it's natural for us to pull back into mediocrity, just fight it, push, push a little bit more.

[00:18:33] And that requires motivation. That's the the fourth habit. Multiply. Motivation. So we could have the best game plan, the best goals, uh, resources, uh, money, whatever it might be. But if we don't have the motivation, we're never gonna get there. So there's two types of motivation. We mentioned earlier the extrinsic.

[00:18:53] Then there's intrinsic. It's really important that we've got a bit of both. And, you know, golds around money, very important, uh, golds around making a difference and doing stuff you love. Very important. But also when we look at inside what's going on inside our bodies. So they did a, a study on rats, and these rats were starving and they put food in front of them, and of course they went straight ahead and at, at the food as you would, but then they block the dopamine receptor.

[00:19:21] In these starving rats, put the food right in front of them and they didn't move. They were not motivated at all to go towards it because the dopamine had been restricted. We are no different when our dopamine, our noradrenaline, our endorphins, our serotonin, those neurotransmitters. When they're out of whack, we're not motivated.

[00:19:40] We could have January one goals and by like January 21 we're like, oh God, just gimme the Cadbury's dairy milk and I'll get to the gym next week. And uh, you know what I mean? Have you been

[00:19:50] Kristina: yeah, yeah, absolutely. I have,

[00:19:54] James: yeah.

[00:19:54] Kristina: I think we all.

[00:19:55] James: Yeah. And so multiplying your motivation is about understanding. [00:20:00] We can do a lot to actually participate in our own motivation and simple things like taking your meds, your mental training, or meditation, exercise, diet, sleep, those simple things that are common sense are not always common practice, but those are the things that can help us manage our neurotransmitters, which then gives us the motivation to actually get after our goals.

[00:20:23] Stick at it with, with Kiki. KI imagine there was times when things went wrong, when you lost money, when you doubted yourself, when you wanted to give up, would I be right?

[00:20:32] Kristina: Absolutely many, many, probably thousands of times, but you know what, you know. Yeah. But you know what kept me going was the purpose, because I, I, in the beginning, the purpose was all around what I wanted, but eventually that became, when I met all the people who loved stationary, loved the brand, and, and eventually, as you know, when I started it.

[00:20:52] It was very much like around their home office and pure stationary. But as it evolved, it was very much about tools for personal growth, like called setting books, gratitude books, journals, things like that. So, so, absolutely, but it, that's what kept me going. And also because I had that, I was so motivated and yeah.

[00:21:12] So the first door opened 2001. So I came to Australia when I was 22, so just a couple years after that. So

[00:21:21] James: It's phenomenal. I moved here 20 years ago and I remember just this, this affinity with Kiki K and just, it was, you spoke my language, right? I was your ideal customer, and so I used your stationary galore. Your productivity planners galore, and I just think we speak the same language and think about things the same way.

[00:21:43] So you've created a really beautiful brand and I can see why you are so passionate about it.

[00:21:48] Kristina: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. And now I have a new brand that's even better called

[00:21:52] the

[00:21:52] Dream Life Store. It's called the Dream Life Store. And, uh, we, we now, so I have nothing to do with Kiki K anymore. I lost it [00:22:00] over COVID, but I started again with a smile. And uh, I now do journals that are, um. one of the things that was really challenging when you have stores around the world was to sit with millions of dollars.

[00:22:13] on stock, is that the right way? You sit with lots of inventory. It's the right word to say it. And uh, it was always so stressful because that's impacted the cash flow. And sometimes we had the wrong stock in New Zealand. That should be in London, you know? Stuff like that. So we developed, in the new business, the Dream Life store, we developed a software where we print on demand.

[00:22:34] So now when you order it, you can personalize your name on it. And we used to decide we, we can only do so many when we are producing in China in terms of quantities and colors. And now we can, it's endless because it's no inventory. So it's um, you know, as we, you know, when we start and we create a business and, you know.

[00:22:54] Sadly I lost it. But, the good thing when you're an entrepreneur, if you've done it once, you can do it twice and then, uh, yeah, and you learn so much. Of course when you make mistakes and you, um, run no business for a long time. So that's one of the things that I absolutely love and I have so much great plans for that business.

[00:23:12] It is more of a bit of a side hustle now 'cause I'm focusing on my speaking and my coaching, but it's always there 'cause I just can't see myself. I use. Journals every single day. And I just can't see myself not having, uh, journals that I like. And also, um, when I read your book, there was like, you know, get your journal.

[00:23:30] And I was like,

[00:23:30] yes, he's speaking my language.

[00:23:32] James: Good. I like it. We should chat. I keep getting asked James, where's the accompanying journal

[00:23:37] for Habits of I?

[00:23:38] Kristina: Yeah. We should do one for sure, for sure. Yeah, let's talk about that, uh, off air.

[00:23:45] James: it's one of those things that I've spotted, whether it's in a Prime Minister, I'm interviewing a Formula One driver, a CEO. The one thing that keeps showing up amongst the highest of performers is they journal.

[00:23:56] Regularly, daily almost. And I think [00:24:00] it's so much power. It's a free thing to do. It's simple, but we get outta the head and onto the page.

[00:24:04] So number five, on habits of high performers Do the work. And it's interesting because we all do work. But doing the work starts inside. So we've gotta really discipline our inner domain if we want to dominate the outer domain and disciplining our thoughts, our dreams, our actions. It all starts upstairs, so it's really inner work and often we're so busy with optics what looks good and what they might think and what, you know, what we'll put on the socials if you start in here and work on this.

[00:24:36] That stuff kind of takes care of itself. It's almost like the person who goes to the gym at 5:00 AM and they've got their brand new Lulus or Nike gear on. They take a photo, they put it on Instagram, they put a 5:00 AM timestamp. They spend three more minutes at the gym and they leave and it's like they're not doing the work, right.

[00:24:54] They're, it's all for show. We don't wanna do that. We high performers, I've seen they work in the dark quietly. Nobody knows they're doing it. And then when they come to performance time or launching the thing time or new job time, they then shine in the light. But they're very happy to do it quietly. Tell no one, like you said, James, I don't share my dreams with everyone.

[00:25:13] That's for a reason. You develop it, you build it. Your latest business, I imagine you didn't tell everyone in the world. You built it. You, and then you launched it. So that's one thing is do the work.

[00:25:24] Kristina: Yeah. Love that. And I, you know, it's, it's, um, it's one of the things, uh, that I have. Realized with myself as well as the people that had come through my program, is that And I think especially in today's world, consuming material is so easy and it's everywhere. And that's inspiring, but will only take you so far versus doing the work.

[00:25:47] And that's why in the coaching program I actually, I create workbooks that is printable that people can use and I actually make people do the work. In the session. And, uh, I, I think it's so [00:26:00] important because I know how hard it is to do the work and even though like one hour a week is not enough to do all the work that we, um, like to do for, to create our dream life, but it's at least a start.

[00:26:10] and when we fall off the wagon, which happens to all of us, uh, or, you know, there's a challenge in the world or, or personally, then I'm there every Monday to kind of, you know, hopefully get them. Roped in and starting again if they need to. So, uh, I, I, I could, yeah. I couldn't agree more doing the work.

[00:26:29] It's like, it's the, the simplest but also the hardest.

[00:26:33] James: Yeah, because we're like built for distraction. Our, our brains are built to look for shiny things and to get distracted, and that probably segues us into number six out of the seven habits. Number six is focus on your priorities. Now the listener might be going, James, this is such common sense, but I will underline it and say yes, but it's not common practice.

[00:26:52] People would look at these habits and be like, of course. Very few do it right? So priorities, we've all got priorities. But if you look at the origins of the word priority, it was actually singular, not plural. It was always meant to be. Well, one thing, it was never meant to have IES at the end. One thing, what is it?

[00:27:11] So high performers are generally able to tell you what they are. So for me, family, fitness, finance, learning, business in that order, and sometimes I need to go to business and it gets all of my attention for 60 or 70 hours. And then I'll come back and go, well, actually family's the top priority. So what does this weekend look like?

[00:27:29] I've gotta make up for it. So an example. I was in Cape Town, South Africa, and a really amazing opportunity come up. So the C Alii is the captain of the, the rugby, the spring box, the South African rugby team, and has an amazing foundation called the Alii Foundation, a charity to stop gender-based violence in South Africa.

[00:27:52] And so the Alii Foundation, were sitting having a meeting in Cape Town. They say, look, we'd love you to be the host. Of, uh, an event which is up in London, England, uh, the [00:28:00] night before the spring box and the All Blacks play at Twickenham. It's gonna be at the Spotify headquarters in London. We'd love you to be the host and the mc for the night.

[00:28:08] And I'm like, Kristina, like, I want to be there. This sounds amazing, right? And so I said, yes, in principle I could be there. I just need to check my diary when I get back to the hotel. So get back to the hotel, get the diary out. Super excited to go to London next month. I see that it's exactly the same night as my 6-year-old son, and he was six at the time, his school production in Christchurch, New Zealand at the town hall.

[00:28:31] And I thought, oh dear, I've got a decision to make. And this is where focusing on your priorities becomes a skill that we've gotta develop. Old James would've went. He's only six. He'll never remember. I'm going. But having a filter for making decisions and aligning your priorities is really important. So values and priorities should shape the decision making.

[00:28:52] So I, I sit down and I go through it all. Go, go to London, hang out at Spotify and meet Prince Harry and all these great guests, or you know, go to Christchurch Town Hall and, uh, see my son. So I write back the next day to the Alii Foundation. I'm so excited for London. Cannot wait. It's gonna be the best night.

[00:29:09] Sadly, I'm unable to attend. I've got another commitment, and I went to my son's town hall event. Now, that doesn't make me the best dad in the world. I'll tell you why. I don't make everything. There's things that I don't make that's for real, but this was a priority. My son's not into sport. Theater, dance, all that stuff is his passion.

[00:29:28] So me being there meant a lot. I was sitting there and for 90 seconds of the two hours he was on stage dancing as a cheeky little fan tale was the song. And uh, I loved it. No regrets. And I could sleep better. As humans, we need things to help us get our priorities straight because I'm not good at prioritizing.

[00:29:47] It's something I have to do daily. And I write it down. And in the book you'll hear the MVP.

[00:29:52] Most valued priority. What's your one priority today? That's your most valued one. So I'd encourage everyone today to write on a piece of paper. My [00:30:00] MVP today is this. Um, lock and load it.

[00:30:03] Kristina: Yeah. Yeah. I love it and I, I think it's so aligned with, in my, the, I wrote a book, I think it was 2000 and. 17, 18, something like that. Uh, call, thank you. Call Your dream life starts here and there's like basically a four principle and that's what what I do all my work and the my coaching around as well.

[00:30:21] And first is dreaming. 'cause I think that's where we should start. And the other one is, uh, passion because I think we should do something we are passionate about. Life is too short, not too, we should do something we really love. And that which then, um, aligns with purpose. And then the, The, uh, last one.

[00:30:38] So it's dream values, passion, and purpose. And, uh, that's how I, I feel like. Everything should go around. And when I read your book, I was like, all these kind of align. It was just so, so perfect for the work that we are doing in the, in the program as well. And, uh, and, uh, I'm exactly the same. So I, my kids grew up when I was the busiest and, uh, I could not make everything, but I had a couple of rules around that exactly the same.

[00:31:07] And one was, I would never miss their birthday. And it was funny because two years ago. I got invited to, to go to Antarctica. I know you're going next week. And, uh, it was on Axel's birthday and Antarctica is such a unique thing and so I, and it's also, it's a different between a 6-year-old and a 16-year-old.

[00:31:29] So then I, uh. I didn't say yes straight away. I went home, I got invited to, it was very last minute, and I got in, you know, it was, I got invited on Friday and I left on Tuesday. So then I sat down with Axel and I said, Hey, the, this session, would you, would it be okay if we celebrate your birthday? You know, the day before.

[00:31:48] Whenever I got back, and I think it's very different, but it, it was, it really stopped me and that's the only, only one. And today, which is my daughter's birthday, as we are recording this,

[00:31:58] uh, Tiffany,[00:32:00]

[00:32:00] she's turning

[00:32:01] James: Tiffany.

[00:32:02] Kristina: Thank you. She turned, turned 15 this, uh, today and uh, and I got invited to speak at the Entrepreneur Summit.

[00:32:10] So we are doing a tour. It's Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, and I said no to Brisbane and um. it's just such a good filter and, you know, I'm sharing this kind of Anta story because I think, I think it's great to not just be like so black and white, because sometimes it might be because when you, when you talk about values and, you know, I thought a lot about this when I read, so I read the book as soon as I got it, and then I reread it for the book club and Sometimes family might be first and then work second, but sometimes doing the work will support the family, so it's not always kind of black and white, so, so I think it's such a good filter to have and then, and be really open about it and share it with your family if that's, you know, if that's the kind of the scenario.

[00:32:55] It could be health and work as well. It's like, You know, sometimes we might have to, you know, when you write a book for example, you know, there's a lot of focus that goes into that kind of task for a short amount of time, which might then get other things outta whack.

[00:33:09] James: A hundred percent. I love that. And it's interesting, Kristina, I get asked a lot about, Hey, how does a high performer have work life balance? I said, well, first of all, work life balance is nonsense. There's no such thing as a perfectly balanced life and work. What I believe in is counterbalance. And so if you look at those priorities that you've named.

[00:33:27] You've shown and just described stories of ways that you've counterbalanced where it was like, you know, for 16, 15 years I was Axel's birthday. Axel's birthday. This once in a lifetime, arguably opportunity for Antarctic comes up. You have a chat with your nice 16-year-old who's got a different perspective, and he's like, yeah, mom, cool.

[00:33:44] I'm, I'm go with that. And that to me is counterbalance. You write your book, so like, like me, you've probably spent a year, a couple of years writing your book. Crazy amount of time that goes in big sacrifice. However, the opportunities that will come from that book will serve your family with [00:34:00] travel and, and income, all these other things.

[00:34:03] So I think it's really important to acknowledge that we do have to devote time to our work. And I tell you, last year I had a just over a hundred flights and people are like, James, that's ridiculous. And I was like, well, actually. It took me to places where I could have fun, do what I love doing, and make an impact.

[00:34:18] Plus, it gave us the abundance financially to make decisions as a family and go on holidays and pay the bills. So I think it comes down to, we don't have to fit the mold and be at the dinner table every single night of the year, but when you are at the dinner table, make sure you're at the dinner table.

[00:34:33] Make sure you're

[00:34:34] there and you're present.

[00:34:35] Kristina: Couldn't agree more. Great. Let's go to the next one.

[00:34:38] James: Last one. Okay, so last habit, and for those that haven't read the book, uh, there's micro principles. There's like 27 principles within the book, and they're scattered throughout those seven habits. And essentially each principle is designed to be one a day you could read. So within a month you would read the book and you would just slowly work your way through it.

[00:34:56] So this last habit is take no shortcuts. The person who takes the shortcut always pays the price. And I think we can all relate to that. We've all taken shortcuts in our life, whether it's with health, wealth, relationships at work, uh, housework, when you take shortcuts, it, it always comes back to bite you, right?

[00:35:17] So I firmly believe that high performers have a plan. They had, they stick to the plan, they have a calendar. And so the last chapter really talks about the success planning method. It's a very simple method that I use. And in fact, Kristina, if, if you're open to it, I'd love to gift every one of your listeners

[00:35:35] a free copy of that.

[00:35:37] So it's a high performance planner, and it's a jj lachlan.com. Forward slash planner, they can go and get that and use it as they wish, but I believe that planning is at the center of everything. And when we have intention and structure combined with action, like anything is possible. So that last chapter is all about, hey, you've got the [00:36:00] plans, you've got the ideas, the beliefs, the values. Please take action. There's so many talkers and very few doers. Be one of those doers who takes no shortcuts and get out there and achieve the things that you want to in your life.

[00:36:13] Kristina: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I will link to that planner and then I think we should talk about that, putting that planner into a hard copy as well, so you can have a, um, as an option.

[00:36:22] But we can talk about that. But, um, in the meantime, people can print it out. So, I am a big believer obviously in taking action as well.

[00:36:32] Otherwise just, you know, you just don't get anywhere. So, Because sometimes when we have big dreams, visions, goals, you know, whatever big plans it, it can feel overwhelming. And especially if you don't have your BS sorted. What kind of tips can you give to people who, who feel overwhelmed?

[00:36:53] Because I hear this all the time and I love to hear your input on that.

[00:36:58] James: Yeah, there, I hear this from a lot of people like go big, take massive action. But actually that's really overwhelming and depending on where you sit, maybe on the neurodiversity scale, someone telling you to take massive action, it's like, oh my God, I don't wanna do that. Like that sounds terrible. I believe in taking small micro steps, the tiniest steps and just compound those.

[00:37:17] So. Often with my clients, I'll talk about what's your mins, MINS. What's your most important next step? And that most important next step might be, you know what? I wanna get fit, but I don't have the right running shoes. My most important next step is going on my phone and going to the, the shoe store on Google and looking at a bunch of shoes.

[00:37:38] That's my most important next step. Nothing more just that. Okay, now you've done that. What's your most important next step? Getting the top three that I like. Okay. Most important. Next step. Order all three, get them sent, try them on, send back the two that you don't like, like one at a time. So whether it's making a billion, launching a business, writing a book, getting fit, getting a little bit smarter, and you know, [00:38:00] learning, doing a degree, just most important next step, small stuff done consistently over time leads to the most incredible results.

[00:38:08] So start

[00:38:08] Kristina: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, that's why I think, I mean, habits are important to kind of be aware of what your, what the habits that you have that are not serving that big vision, uh, and your dreams, but also taking those small action because. Because if you, this is what I say to everyone that would listen.

[00:38:27] Uh, if you have a big dream and you take one tiny small action every day, eventually, it might not be in the timeframe that you want, but eventually, but I always find that once you start taking action, things will kind of, it's just things just start to happen automatically when you start taking action.

[00:38:44] Because you learn things that you didn't know. You might meet people you didn't know or needed, and it's just a, it's just. Such a compound way of living when you start taking action and you just need to take small ones every single day. So I

[00:38:57] James: I'm with you a hundred percent. And as we chat, Kristina, I hope it makes me think, I hope that we get a stage at one point and sit on a panel together because I feel like on a panel discussion we would have a lot of fun and there's so many similarities in our approach to

[00:39:12] Kristina: Yeah, Yeah, absolutely. You know, if we don't find one, we create one. That's why.

[00:39:17] James: I like your thinking hundred percent.

[00:39:20] Kristina: Yeah, absolutely. I, you know, it's funny 'cause I, um, I, uh, wrote down, so one of my big dreams for this year, or my vision is to do 104 keynotes. So I, when I started my business. I got asked to speak a lot, but I wasn't really never, you know, I never set out to be a a world class speaker. I was just saying yes, if it was.

[00:39:41] Relevant and I love sharing. It's one of my high values is to share. So I started, but it was like, I would never really accept. I was like, you know, I wasn't a good speaker and I was, you know, sharing my story and it was all fine. But then when I lost everything and I. Started again. I thought actually my story is much, much [00:40:00] richer now.

[00:40:01] 'cause before it was a lot around the success and the startup and, and now I can incorporate losing everything and then starting again and the kind of resilience and the, all the learnings that I did through that. And so now I, I am like, I'm actually gonna become a. You know, a world class speaker.

[00:40:19] Certainly not there yet, but I, I want to speak and, and it's interesting because when I share that, and this is an interesting one for the listeners as well, this is one thing, you know, I did something, uh, I started to share it because I often share it because you never know who's in the audience, who might need a speaker, et cetera.

[00:40:38] So that's a great way of sharing. But one of my friends, she said to me, not even the best speaker, 204 keynotes, and I'm like. I said, well, I'm gonna be the first one. Then of course there are people who do 104 and much more, and it's interesting also. Being around like, and you know, I'm so used to come across people who don't believe in my crazy dreams, and I'm absolutely fine with that.

[00:40:59] But you know, the things like that can actually stop you. That's why it's so important to be around like-minded people. And then, uh, a few months ago, I, I bumped into a another speaker, uh, Chelsea Pottinger. And, uh, we met at, we know we know each other via online, but never met in person and, uh, or knew of each other, but never.

[00:41:18] Connected we met and then we just had so much in common and said, let's have lunch. And we had that and she does six keynotes a week. And it made me almost feel lazy. So it's all depend on who you, who you spend time with, and it was just so inspiring. And I think that's what, you know, that's why you want to hang around like-minded people.

[00:41:38] And um, when you share those kind of big dreams, you never know what can happen. So, but you just have to be prepared for, to have some negative people as well. So.

[00:41:46] James: A hundred percent. There's lots of naysayers I call 'em. You've got lifters and leaners always and lifters will lift you up. Leaners will drag and pull you down. So just get around a few more lifters that than leaners don't. You don't need to ditch everyone all at once, but get around a few more positive [00:42:00] people.

[00:42:00] And it's interesting on the speaking thing, so I was in the hospital two days ago and a doctor was helping me out and doctor says they sound talk good, chip like. What's taking you down there? I so told her, well, what do you do when you're not an Antarctica? I said, well, I do speaking. I speak on leadership and high performance.

[00:42:15] And she went, oh, and she went, I think you spoke at one of my, my, my husband's events. Said, what? Who do you work for? She, she told me, I was like, yeah. She says, look, we're organizing an event for Health New Zealand, and uh, I've been looking for a speaker and I was thinking of chatting to you. So now you're here, so that gets better, right?

[00:42:32] I go in the hospital the next morning, so I needed an ultrasound done. So I'm chatting to the ultrasound, uh, sonographer, and she says, what do you doing an Antarctic again? I told her, what do you do here? I'm told her. She went, okay. I have two annual conferences. I'm organizing for the radiographers and the sonographers.

[00:42:47] Could you speak? So like in 12 hours at a hospital, visit it three keynotes. So please tell people that you want to do it. Please, no matter where you go, tell 'em you do keynote speaking. You will hit over 104 I bet.

[00:43:01] Kristina: I love that there's always, it, it's also about, about being excited and, you know, show your passion and then, you know, there might not have needed one, but you never know. And that's why it's like, I, you know, I, so that's what I was gonna say before, it's like New Zealand, I haven't done a lot of speaking, but uh, we had.

[00:43:19] Quite a few stores in New Zealand. So last year was all about just, you know, getting as much speaking as I possibly can to kind of get back into it and really refine my keynotes, et cetera. Great practice because that's what we need to do, take action. And then this year I was like, oh, who, where do I actually wanna speak?

[00:43:35] And then I put New Zealand in. So this is great 'cause we'll, we'll make sure we do, um, speak at the same

[00:43:41] James: Let's see what I can do to help you out as well. And I'm speaking a lot in New Zealand so that they always need a different speaker next year, so I

[00:43:46] Kristina: exactly. Yeah. And the same. The same. And, and I see so many speaker, 'cause I am often, uh, the last speaker or the first speaker, and so I always sit in. all day to kinda, if, [00:44:00] especially if I'm the last speaker and, uh, I, I see so many speaker, but it's, it's rare that I find someone who is absolutely amazing.

[00:44:07] So love to, um, I can already say that you have so much value to add and it's great when you find speakers also that have similar, because they might want similar topic but not the same speaker.

[00:44:19] So I'm sure we can help

[00:44:21] each other. Fantastic. I love it. I love it. So, I wanted to ask for the person who is, um, listening now, and I haven't read your book yet, but we'll link to that.

[00:44:33] So that will be, but what can I start with today?

[00:44:37] James: Look, keep it simple. Start with getting clear on what they want. And why they want it and how much they're willing to sacrifice to actually get it. Those are the three questions that all high performers are able to answer. Here's what I want, here's how badly I want it and why I want it, and this is what I'm willing to do, the sacrifice to actually get there.

[00:44:54] So I think start with that and certainly this is something I talk about all day, every day so they can come along and connect If, if your team wants to pop my socials in, feel free, uh, but would love to people to follow along the journey.

[00:45:07] Kristina: Yeah. Yeah. Sounds perfect. So just a couple of short questions. I am curious, have you got a morning ritual?

[00:45:15] James: Yeah, I'm very strict on my mornings. Yes.

[00:45:17] Kristina: Yeah,

[00:45:18] James: And this is from, actually, I've got a, an episode coming out this week, uh, with Hal Lro.

[00:45:24] So he wrote The Miracle Morning beautiful book. And, uh, one of my friends is Robin Sharma, who wrote the 5:00 AM Club.

[00:45:30] Kristina: yeah. Yeah. I had a Robin Sharma on I think three times now.

[00:45:33] I did. Yeah. I love him and I did coaching with him when I started out, so I just learned, I, he, he would line very much with the way I look at things, so yeah.

[00:45:43] James: Learn from the best, right?

[00:45:45] Kristina: Yes.

[00:45:46] James: He's awesome. So I believe that all high performers have a strict morning routine. Now, I'm not saying everyone needs to get up at 5:00 AM I'm saying that they get up at the same time seven days a week, and it's not this, oh, on the weekend I sleep in until 12, but I usually get up at [00:46:00] seven.

[00:46:00] It's pick a time and stick with it when you get up. Having a real grounded routine will either, you know, set you up for success or failure. So if you wake up to your phone. And that's your alarm. Chances are very high that when you hit stop, you're straight into scrolling or Instagram or messages, you're literally wiring your brain for reactivity.

[00:46:24] So the first thing I do is I, I wake up, come downstairs, we've got a little walking treadmill, uh, in my office. And so get on there, start moving the body slowly, and I'll go through my mattress and they, they help ground me and get me set. So I'll walk for 10 or 15 minutes. Then I'll journal. What's my MVP today?

[00:46:42] Most valued priority, personally and most valued priority professionally. Then I'll stretch, do a short workout. I'll do like a 10 to 15 minute strength workout. Lots of water. And then I don't drink caffeine, but I do enjoy coffee. So decaf, I'm on that stuff like there's no tomorrow. Uh, and then eating, relieve a vegetable and fruit based breakfast.

[00:47:05] And off we go. So by, I'm up at five 15 usually, uh, five to five 15. And so by six 30 I'm raring to go.

[00:47:13] Kristina: Yeah. Love that. Thank you for sharing. I, I always ask that question 'cause I, I think it, you know, if you start a day like that or however people wanna start it in, you know, in a way that they are excited and can't wait to wake up, it's so much easier. And even if you have a really challenging or bad day, whatever that is, then at least you had a great start.

[00:47:33] And

[00:47:34] that's, that's why I, yeah. I love my mornings. I, um, I, I can't wait to go to bed so I can get up and I love, I, I love coffee so much as well, but I love the caffeine kick as well. So it's kind of always something, uh, to look forward to. And, um, and in, at the minute, I'm injured in one foot, so I, I can't do my normal work.

[00:47:54] So I am doing sauna and a couple of cold planters every morning and it's amazing because, you know, [00:48:00] it's like, because walking is my. It's kind of, it's for my mental health. I just love seeing the sun rise and I love walking. I live in Mandy, so it's kind a beautiful place to walk around. Yeah, so dreamy and I can't do that at the moment.

[00:48:15] And so then inside I was like, I need to do something that's good and not just go straight to work. And I always do my journaling and my meditation and things like that as well. But I, um, now at, uh, eight o'clock they opened just down the street from me. They have a, a sauna and a ice bath. And I do that every morning, and I've been doing it for a week and I'll do another week.

[00:48:34] So it's just like two week focus and for someone who's like really kind of eager to get into work, sitting in a hot, super hot sauna for half an hour. I hate, like you've been to camp before, but I hate the cold coming from Sweden. Coming from Sweden. I should, perhaps be used to it, but I don't.

[00:48:52] And, but I do it anyway and when I walk out of there at eight 30, I just feel so amazing and it's so, so this is another thing that I, I think is so important, is to, when you have a challenge coming, there's always a silver lining. And this silver lining for me is like sitting in the sauna to just think, 'cause that's all you can do in a sauna.

[00:49:11] That's. So hot. So anyway, I thought I'd

[00:49:14] James: So may I ask, so do you do the sauna for 30 and then you cold pl.

[00:49:19] Kristina: No. So I, so it depends on, so I sometimes do 25 minutes sitting and then just one cold plunge. But, uh, so I've been experimenting it with both 'cause I love the heat, so I can actually see, sit there for 25 minutes. But the cold is my challenge.

[00:49:33] So I now do about 10 15 and then I jump in quickly and then I go for another one. And just gives me that kind of adrenaline

[00:49:41] kick that I'll, that I love.

[00:49:43] James: I love

[00:49:44] Kristina: So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So good. And so have you done a cold plunge in the untucked, because I think you've been before. Yeah.

[00:49:50] James: I went this time last year as well, um, but didn't do a coal plunge. It was a very short trip. It was like a four day trip last year, so it's a bit longer this year, so

[00:49:58] Kristina: Yep.

[00:49:59] James: get to do it next [00:50:00] week.

[00:50:00] Kristina: Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's a, and you know, it's funny 'cause I, everyone was asking you doing it, and I'm like, no, because I don't like the cold and you know, this is what we do in Sweden. And I'm like, no. And then I was standing there, I was like, I have to do it. So I

[00:50:11] did

[00:50:12] it. And, uh, Yeah. And oh, I, I can't remember the names.

[00:50:17] I'll

[00:50:17] have to

[00:50:17] James: down on a boat?

[00:50:18] Kristina: Yeah, yeah,

[00:50:19] James: wow. That's cool.

[00:50:20] Kristina: Yeah, yeah. So we.

[00:50:21] James: Air Force, but

[00:50:22] Kristina: Ah, right. All right. Yeah, so I, so I, I, I'm terrible with names, but it was, you know, we were going through the Drake and, you know,

[00:50:30] the, the, yeah. So amazing. It was just, it was so remarkable. So, yeah. Absolutely. I, I wanna, I wanna do it one more time, uh,

[00:50:39] with my

[00:50:39] James: it.

[00:50:39] Kristina: next time.

[00:50:40] Yeah. But,

[00:50:41] okay. The la Yeah. Do you know, do you know what's so funny? I wanna share this as well, and then I have, I'll finish up, but I was on a, uh. Seminar with lots of speakers last year and there was a, a guest speaker from the US and he said, I've spoken to all the continents except on Tikal. And uh, and then I was thinking.

[00:51:04] I did a talk, it was International Women's Day, so I did a talk on the boat, and so I ticked that one. I ticked that one off. But, uh, there's different other, other places. But that's when I, last year I ticked off all the seventh continents and, um, and, but I, you know, there's so much more I wanna see, but it's, uh, it's, yeah, such a, I love working, speaking, traveling.

[00:51:24] It's such a great combination

[00:51:26] as you know. Um, so my last question, no, not my last question. One short one. Have you got a favorite book? And I know this will be really hard 'cause I can see a bookcase behind you. a book that had a big impact on you nonfiction or a book, uh, that is your favorite.

[00:51:45] James: Yes. So I'm gonna take two because I'm gonna be

[00:51:47] cheeky, but, um, first book that really changed my life helped me when I was going through divorce, helped me when I had like, way too strong of a relationship with alcohol was the monk who sold his Ferrari [00:52:00] by Robin Sharma. I've read it multiple times and I love

[00:52:03] it.

[00:52:04] Kristina: yep,

[00:52:04] James: think every person should read that. Uh, the second book that I gift a lot to people is The Alchemist by Paulo Culo. I love that book. And it's about purpose and meaning and like truly believing and chasing after something that's meaningful to you. So those are the two books that really come to mind.

[00:52:23] Kristina: Fantastic. I love both of them, for sure. Uh, the last question I have for you, knowing what you know now, what kind of advice would you give to your younger self? Say your, you know, your late early twenties.

[00:52:37] James: One would be don't drink alcohol. I know not everybody wants to hear that, but I did way too much of that. Uh, so apart from that, it would be dream way bigger. believe that you can step into rooms that you never thought were possible. Uh. Set really clear intentions and goals and don't tell too many people.

[00:52:57] Just get very clear on what you want. Get after it. Do the work, uh, and believe in yourself, back yourself. And I think if I could have known that at 20. Life would've been so different. The twenties are difficult for most humans. I think it's a challenging

[00:53:10] time. So get clear on what you want. Don't listen to too many naysayers.

[00:53:13] Block them out. But dream big, get into those rooms you think are not possible. Anything is possible if you're a possibilitarian, like anything's possible.

[00:53:22] Kristina: Yeah. Fantastic. Wow, this has been such a inspiring conversation. I'm, I'm just so inspired and I have no doubt our listeners will be too. So thank you so much first for taking the time this week to come on the podcast, but also for taking their time to write a book and share all your amazing inspiration and knowledge.

[00:53:43] So thank you so much.

[00:53:44] James: thank you. It's been a pleasure.

[00:53:47] Wow. I am so inspired now. I love this conversation with James because it's such a powerful reminder that progress doesn't come from one big moment.

[00:53:57] It comes from what we practice [00:54:00] every single day. This is exactly why we are reading Habits of High Performance Together Inside Grow right now. Because reading isn't just the beginning. The real magic happens when you pause, reflect, discuss, and actually implement what you're learning alongside others who are on the same journey. If this conversation resonated and you would love to go deeper to turn inspiration into action, I would love to see you inside my book Club Grow. It's a beautiful space to grow, one habit, one insight, one small step at a time. I will link to everything we spoke about on the episode, and if you want to join us and grow, just head over to your dream life starts here.com.

[00:54:44] Until next time, remember, progress not perfection and keep choosing habits that support the life you truly want to live. As always, I'll be back on Monday with another Monday motivation episode. I'll see you then.

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